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Thermic fluid hose

High temperature, almost no pressure. The pressure looks so easy that nobody derates, and at 300 °C half the rating has already gone.

Thermic fluid is hot oil circulated at 250–320 °C and almost no pressure — a few bar to move it round the loop. It is the inverse of a steam system: the temperature is higher and the pressure is trivial. That combination catches people out, because the pressure looks so easy that nobody applies the derating, and 316L at 300 °C has lost nearly half its rating.

What this service does to a hose

Temperature, applied continuously for years. Our published factor for 316L is 0.54 at 300 °C. A DN50 assembly rated 30 bar cold is a 16 bar assembly on a thermic fluid header. That is still far above the four or five bar the pump makes, so the margin is real — but it has to be checked, because it is the same arithmetic that fails on a smaller bore at a higher circuit pressure.

Sustained time in the sensitisation range. Between roughly 450 and 850 °C, unstabilised austenitic stainless precipitates chromium carbide at the grain boundaries and loses corrosion resistance there. A thermic fluid loop does not reach that range in normal running, but a hose in a fired-heater bay can, and the argument for a stabilised grade like 321 gets stronger the closer the hose sits to the firing.

The fluid finds every joint. Hot heat-transfer oil has very low surface tension at operating temperature. It will pass through a joint that would hold water, hold steam and hold compressed air. This is the single most common complaint on thermic fluid systems and it is a joint problem, not a hose problem — which is exactly why we weld rather than crimp, and why we would push you towards flanged or welded ends and away from threads.

Degradation products. Heat transfer fluids crack over time into light ends and heavy ends. The light ends lower the flash point of what is in your pipe. The heavy ends form carbon that deposits in low-velocity regions — and the corrugation valleys of an unlined hose are a low-velocity region.

What we would fit

ElementWhat we would supplyWhy
Hose321 annular corrugated above 300 °C or in a fired-heater bay; 316L below it321 is stabilised; the closer to the firing, the stronger that argument
BraidMatching grade, sized on the derated pressureAt 300 °C only 54 % of the catalogue figure is available
LinerFitted where velocity is high or the fluid is old and carbonisingIt keeps flow off the convolutions and reduces the low-velocity pockets
EndsFlanged or butt weld. We would avoid threaded joints entirelyHot heat-transfer oil passes threads that hold everything else
LengthSized on live length with the hot growth of the run includedThe pipework grows before the hose is asked to flex
A leak here is a fire. Most thermic fluids are above their flash point at operating temperature, so a joint that weeps onto hot lagging is a recognised ignition route. That raises the standard for the end connection, for the inspection interval, and for what we will supply without a written duty. Send us the fluid name, the bulk temperature and the film temperature, and we will work it properly.

What we would not fit, and what happens

Threaded ends. They will weep, and on this fluid weeping is the failure.

A PTFE-lined hose at 300 °C. The liner sets a ceiling well below the stainless. Where a smooth bore is genuinely needed, give us the temperature first and we will say honestly whether it can be done.

Interlock hose. Not pressure-tight, on a flammable fluid.

A hose sized on the cold table. Nearly half the rating has gone before the loop is commissioned.

What we need to size it

We needBecause
Fluid name and grade, bulk temperature and film temperatureFilm temperature is what the metal actually sees at the wall
Circuit pressure and the relief settingThe relief setting is the design pressure
Where the hose sits relative to the heaterIt decides stabilised grade against plain 316L
Whether the loop runs continuously or is cycledCycling adds a fatigue duty to a thermal one
Movement at the connection, and the run lengths either sideHot pipework grows and the hose has to allow it
End connections — and whether threads are being proposed anywhereIf so we will argue about it before we quote

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